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Lvl up scrolls.

Why should rich people have an advantage over others, just because they're rich? Makes no sense to me.

efeats the purpose of playing the game and leveling on your own, dont learn anything at all.

You're kidding me >_<

"Charge 60 level up scrolls to my visa please"

w00t. Level 60 in one day and I even beat the botters to it.

Yeah... but what would the point be? You'd feel no satisfaction, no sense of achievement.

On the plus side, you would have a very empty wallet. Saves on the wear and tear and whatnot, I guess.

i'm assuming you meant the 2x exp scrolls, not scrolls that just instantly give you a lvl up. if this is the case, then i fully support them. you can buy them in-game if you save enough (a full day's worth of trading or thieving can get you the money), and for those w/ credit cards and disposable income, the item mall is another option. this is the only way legitimate playets can get a leg up over the botters.

Yeah, but it would probibly cost like.... $20 each....

BTW, thos who voted, "Thats a horrible idea. RETARD." are insulting real retarded people, and thats just mean and rude.

edited. thanks :)

Lol. But it isnt THAT much of a bad idea.

Grrr *bite* I wasn't serious
See... when I used to have excesses of $1.2K per month... that wouldn't be a problem

Again I'm joking!

It's a horrible idea.. but I bought one. Part of the point of playing an online game is teh competition with others, and if you don't use stuff to your advantage or to at least have the same playing field as others you won't get anywhere.

how is it not a good idea? anybody can get one, not just 'rich' people. if you don't have money or a CC in real life, just buy one in-game. yea, i know, not every level 20 can afford 750k for a one-day or 6mil or more for a month, but a level 20 doesn't need one. these scrolls are more for higher levels where it actually takes a while to level. and those higher level people have more gold, so can afford it.

and like was already said, it's the only way legit players can even hope to compete with botters.

and as for people that say they cost too much from the item mall. it's like $13. just don't go out to eat tomorrow, eata t home instead. that'll pay for it. i mean, it's not like it's very expensive.

but seriously, for casual players it's almost a must IMO. i'm not a hardcore gamer, so if i didn't have some kind of exp boost, it'd probably take me a year or more to get to any kind of decent level. and by then i'd be bored of getting killed trying to do jobs, and just not being high level. so i wouldn't play anymore. so, eh....

If I was just a little mean, I would flame you horrendously, instead I'll just attack your post in a nice way. First, what other successful RPG lets you pay for level up items? None? That's what I thought, and you know why? Because then we'd have level 60 noobs, and people would get bored with the game quickly, and once they're bored with the game, people will stop buying items from the item mall. Does SRO want that? No. $13 for a meal, most people don't eat lobster and a drink for dinner, instead they eat peanut butter and jelly or a TV dinner -- $3. And seriously who would spend their credit card on pixels? Please now, it's a one time use, you buy it, you can't even touch it, and it's gone. Why would you pay for it in the first place? If you did acheive 60 through buying levels all the other 60's would call you a qu3er and a noob for buying the levels, no guild wants a buyer, its second to botter. You go tell yourself, YAY Im level 60 because I payed with my mastercard. And casual players play casually, just because they don't devote as much time, doesn't mean they should be the same level as someone who plays 23.99 hours a day. Doesn't that seem a little unfair? And the game IS NOT ABOUT KEEPING UP WITH BOTTERS. WHY DO PEOPLE COMPARE THIS? It's about REMOVING THE BOTTERS. I was a level 2 theif at level 20, so why do you say "I'd (you'd) be bored getting killed trying to do jobs?" I guess your just telling us you don't know how to trade/hunt/theif? So I presume you're a newb, for one, as a trader go one star, for two as a hunter find a high level hunter and stick with him, and if you can't do that, I won't even teach you how to thieve? If you're not a hardcore gamer, then it doesn't mean you should be the same level as one. PERIOD.

Edit: TO suicidegrl, ideas like that ruin a game. I've seen it happen before, I'm not a person who flames alot, but I don't want a great game ruined.

there was absolutely nothing flameworthy in that post. your attutide needs adjusting. just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean that they're wrong. i happen to agree with every word Geobot said, and hardly any of your post. but i am not even tempted to flame you. i respect your opinion. give it a try. look at something from a perspective outside your own. who knows, you may like it - and it'll keep me from having to edit your posts ;)

huh, i guess new things are bad then? okay, whatever you say. i suppose having jobs that aren't tied to skills and the ability to use any number of skill trees you choose are bad ideas to then. most other games don't have these features. are you saying those are evil?




huh, well, a lot of people get bored with constant grinding. and then stop playing. does SRO want that? no.



i don't know where you're from, but lobster and a drink here cost more like $20, at the least. and a value meal from McDonalds costs around $6, maybe 7 if you supersize it. so my bad, skip eating out twice.

do you really eat PB&J and tv dinners every night? not very nutritious really. you should consult the food pyramid and see what it has to say about that.



weird.... people pay money for other games as well. they also pay for web space, programs, and tons of other things that are nothing but pixels. i guess you've never payed for anything computerized? you pay for entertainment. it's no different than going to the movies. you get entertained, same thing. this is one of the weakest arguments in your whole post.



yes, i suppose supporting joymax by actually giving something in return is horrible, and you shouldn't get any kind of regard for it. second, i've yet to hear of a guild turning someone down because they used a gold ticket.

second to botting? what, you think the botters aren't using them too? are you THAT naive?

also, as time goes on, a great deal of players will use tickets, whether you want to believe that or not. so it's not going to be the outcast type situation you paint. it'll be accepted, because it's part of the game.



like i said above, the people that buy these items are helping support the game. the people that don't are playing for free. is THAT fair? and i hate to say it, but the ticket only lasts for 3 hours a day. if you play for 23 hours a day and can only level as fast as someone who plays for 2-3 with a ticket, there's something VERY wrong with your gameplay.



botters are a fact of life in any MMORPG. you can't totally eliminate them, all you can do is get rid of as many as possible. so i guess the ones left over should always be the highest level in every server? makes complete sense to me. where's your sense of fairness now?



gratz to you for level 2 thief. so, how'd ya manage that? i find it almost hard to believe that you jacked that many 2 star camels, since there are basically none that a level 20 could possibly take. the only possible target you'd have is some fresh trader that had no clue what stars meant. good job taking complete advantage of them.

or did you just wander around looking for piles of loot on the ground? that's the honorable way, and it would definitely show your 1337 thieving skills.

or maybe you had a couple higher level friends help out? that one makes the most sense to me. but once again congratz on your most amazing accomplishment. i feel horrible that i wasn't one, and will probably quit playing now.

but i guess EVERYONE else who didn't is now a noob? yes, i've done one star trades. i've played with hunter for a minute, but it's not for me. i wanted to thieve, and on the advice of others i waited.



a truly hardcore gamer would appreciate the exp tickets, and use them to their advantage. and of course, that makes you whole argument completely invalid. but maybe that makes too much sense.

Geobot: 50pts, sir ;)

I agree with others; this a horrible idea

Why should 'Person A' be able to instantly level just because they have a credit card? Juz because they were able to swindle the item mall and make 40 mil of people at level 20?

Deserve nothing. Thanks.

I dont even like it when ppl brag about the 40m. So what. I have CC too.

I have a full time job (50+ hours per week). I also have a family, but love gaming. I am lucky enough to get to play 2-3 hours per day. The scrolls allow me to get to higher levels faster. If I had to grind on devil bugs and chajkis for weeks I would have quit long ago.

Some people have lots of time on their hands and as a result may not have alot of disposable income. Others have less time due to work and other concerns, but have the cash. People paying for items and scrolls keeps the game free for the rest of the people.

Lastly the cost is cheap, for the price of a 12 pack (or 2 beers in a bar) you get a scroll. It could be worse you could be trying to woo a new woman, now that is expensive.

my assumption is based on double exp scrolls not insta levels

I have full time aerospace job.

Plus web work at home.

Four sites to run. And customer sites.

Do kickboxing, grappling, MMA training too. Sometimes 4x week.

Plus social life, at least every friday, sometimes thu-fri-sat.

Go out of town on weekends. God forbid I had full time woman too.

XP scroll = Good
Insta level = BS

to clarify I'm in favor of the exp scrolls, against insta level.

Well, see... the poll said Level Up Scroll. And good sirs and ma'am, we should look at it and answer it as that.

Of course, bringing up points and opinions are a great way to share your ideas and thoughts. It might give a better insight to something and offer a different perspective to the one you are currently viewing at. When exchanging viewpoints, IF you are in disagreement with what someone said, rebutt it all you want but please provide a clear explanation and have some form of research done previously. If everyone came to a forum, sees something they are in disagreement with, and decides to "flame", all forums are in serious mess and in need of heavy moderating and censorship.

lolz...funny...cant stop laughing...most of the beginning replies didnt knew what he meant..lolz...funny...wakaka...
he said a instant lvl up scroll...lolz..wakaka...i put good idea but my post is bad idea...
y would they do stuff like that? lolz...selling a lvl up scrolls..do they really do that? if sro have it i would go to the bank immediately and take out all my life saving and buy alot...and use it on myself until i reach lvl 10000...

The food pyramid is fascist propaganda intended to keep people from eating enough cake. Trust me on this one - if it weren't for the food pyramid, there would be world peace* .




*Of cake.

lolz that is another funny... i dont follow food piramyd or whatever its called...i eat...chickens...chickens....chickens... oh and cow's meat...cow's meat..cow's meat.. and lastly...CAKES!!! especially if its a double layered chocolate cheese cake with sprinkles on top and a huge chunces of jelly...yummy...

I most definentally never said new things were bad; You are making assumptions and they are bad. And as much as you'd like to think, many games allow you to use multiple skill trees. If you'd like an MMORPG that allows you to, try SWG.

If you plan on playing an mmorpg deal with it or a buy a ticket, not a level up.


First of all, I was exaggerating for a point, I think you can interpret that if you thought about it for a minute. And talking about nutrition, why would you eat at McDonald's and especially why would you supersize it. As much as you would like to think not, Peanut butter and jelly is nutritious and those were two examples of commonly eaten cheap meals. Im sorry for the man who thinks, "do you really eat PB&J and tv dinners every night?"

If you must know, I pay for everything I use. But I do not support paying for level up scrolls.


I love how you decide to twist my wording. I never said supporting Joymax for their work is bad. I was saying LEVEL UP SCROLLS are BAD; I actually support their item mall, but do not support level up scrolls.


I love how you insist botters use them. It's funny because they aren't out yet. So how can they use them? Secondly, botters most likely wont use them. That's why they bot. For free experience.


Once again where the hell do you get that I don't accept tickets?


That is total bs. Botters are not a fact of life in most secured rpgs. World of Warcraft, Everquest, Everquest 2, Dark Ages of Camelot -- NONE of them have bots; most MMORPG DO NOT HAVE BOTS. And just because they have a bot doesn't mean they're the highest level.


Their are strategies to kill one star, and no I'm not talking about spawn high level theives. Once again, maybe you should play theif some. Im currently 10% to level 3 theif @22. Your sarcasm does alot for you...


No, I called you a newb for what you said; I had nothing referring to others. Once again you sadly twist my words to make weak counter points. You said "by then i'd be bored of getting killed trying to do jobs, without being a high level," clearly stating it's impossible to take up a tradeskill without being a high level. Once again, that is why I inferred you ARE a noob.


Once again, your point is invalid, you twist my word to say I do not like exp tickets. But you are making that up. I do not support the level up scrolls.


First of all, flameworthy depends on opinion; Secondly, I did not flame at all. [Sarcasm] And 50 pts? What is this Harry Potter? [/Sarcasm] If you're awarding points for an arguement, I can argue.

To Geobot: I've had experience in many, many MMORPG's, and I've been a GM in two. I respect MMORPG's and would like to hear your opinion on what I had to say. So if you begin to infer I'm a noob to MMORPG's and don't know what I'm talking about try a new opinion, unless WoW, EQ, EQ2, DAoC, SWG, LineAgeII, CoH, SRO, etc. do not count as MMORPG's.

@ aloron -

ah, i see, you didn't even read my first post correctly. wow, this whole argument was for nothing. let me point out a couple things from my first post and clear this whole mess up.




if you read the above, you'll notice something. i'll point out some key things.

1) i said you could get them in game, and quoted price ranges
2) i even quoted the price from the item mall as $13. that comes to 130 silk

now, reading that, you should be able to infer that what I was talkin about was already in-game, and costs 130 silk.

how is it not obvious that i was talking about gold tickets? two posters before me had mentioned gold tickets, i was responding to them. since the author of the thread didn't specify exactly what he meant by 'lvl up scrolls', it could be interpreted either way.

read the whole thread before you jump to conclusions. i was talking about gold tickets. you, apparently, were talking about something else, even though you made no effort to specify, in your response. though you said you wouldn't flame, i took it as one.

then, i respond, still talking about the exact same thing, and again you misinterpret it.

i'm done with this conversation. the whole argument was nothing but a misunderstanding, so just let it lie.

and just to clarify a bit further, YES, an instant level up scroll is a completely horrible idea. that would, of course, ruin the game. that's the reason i assumed the author HAD to be talking about gold tickets, because an instant level-up scroll isn't even poll-worthy in my opinion. a few other people assumed the same thing, as is evident from some of the replies, ie suicidegirl and stallowned at least.

so basically, i have no argument with you, except for the fact that i still do not appreciate being flamed because you misunderstood my post.


EDIT ::
but to respond to this:


wow, big deal, you've played alot of games and GM'd. so have i. i also ran a private server for over 3 years, have experience programming games, simulations, and database programs. i know why things are implemented, and CAN see the big picture.

so, like i said, i don't appreciate being called a noob either. but then again, i never inferred you were, whereas you attacked me, knowing absolutely nothing about me. THAT'S what pissed me off, not your opinions.

I only inferred you were a newb. Meaning by what you said it seemed like it. I'm sorry for what I said. I thought you were talking about LEVEL UP; so yes it was a big misunderstanding. I've never run a private server, what game did you run it for and what connection could you run it with? Or was it lan only -- or 100% private to you? I don't mind the gold/silver tickets.

for the private server thing, it was for Ragnarok Online. we(meaning my wife and i) started it up about the time they went p2p, after playing it in beta. it was pretty fun. we never intended for it to be huge, mainly we just played with friends we'd met through our old DC hub, and people that happened to get dragged in by them. so it wasn't any problem running it. also, the server software helped out, since the requirements for it were rather low.

the main bit of fun i had with it came from the fact that the server software was open source, so i had a huge mess of c code to work with. i liked going in and making changes, so it was cool. also, adding in skills as they came out for the official servers took some code changes also.

all in all, it was great fun, but after a while it ruined the game for me, since i knew ALL the behind the scenes stuff, and i could just look in the code to find any kind of damage/stat formulas i wanted, so there was no surprise anymore ^^

Ugghh glad you made friends, still dizzy from all the 'great debating' haha

Sry guys actually voted yes for this, coz i thought you were flaming exp scrolls - my new found addiction

But Jeez *takes it back and puts 5 vote in No* Absolute BS if this was available, instant-level are F&^% Stupid as it makes me ask why the hell do I grind for > and agreed it'll ruin the game

But why are you angry though, as far as I know this isnt available yet, or is it coming -_-

heh, i voted yes too, but not for instant level scrolls. most of the 'yes' votes up there are probably from people who thought it meant tickets. i would hope that not many people would really want inst-level scrolls available.