Hybrid bow or full str bow?

vengeanze · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 288 **Location:** Uranus.

which would u side with and why?

i have a lvl 29 chn str bow...i mite start lvling up int..to balance out and become hybrid...but i know i will gain magical damage and lose crits..so idk which is better overall.

Mameluke · **Joined:** Oct 2007 **Posts:** 487 **Location:**

Actually i tought if you add int, ur crits would be higher. Someone correct me if im wrong...

I would stay pure str if i were you, 40k+ hp ftw

DropOut · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 323 **Location:** Belgium

Pure str rulz

vengeanze · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 288 **Location:** Uranus.

yea 40+hp is gud but i dunt wana suck a PVE , while hybrid gets all the drops.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:49 pm

Mameluke wrote:

Actually i tought if you add int, ur crits would be higher. Someone correct me if im wrong...

I would stay pure str if i were you, 40k+ hp ftw

Let me correct you. A crit only doubles the phy dmg. So if you have int you will have more magical damage but less physical damage so your crits will be LOWER. Also this explains why euro pure str chars do excactly double their dmg on a crit while chinese usually hit a bit less than 2x the damage on a crit (because of the imbue damage).

Anyway pure str is the way to go. IMO hybrid str sucks.

vengeanze · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 288 **Location:** Uranus.

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Also this explains why euro pure str chars do excactly double their dmg on a crit while chinese usually hit a bit less than 2x the damage on a crit (because of the imbue damage).

Anyway pure str is the way to go. IMO hybrid str sucks.

umm waw thanks.

Ownage · **Joined:** Jul 2009 **Posts:** 1173 **Location:** SwSro!

Atm I am Pure str, and you don't need to worry about hybrid ksing you, if you get a good wep 8+ crit and +3 or more, you can usually crit every 3-4 hits and you 2-4 hit mobs your lvl.

vengeanze · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 288 **Location:** Uranus.

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Atm I am Pure str, and you don't need to worry about hybrid ksing you, if you get a good wep 8+ crit and +3 or more, you can usually crit every 3-4 hits and you 2-4 hit mobs your lvl.

eh i dnt have to worry about mobs hehe i can 2 hit them with regular bow already.

Nyima · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 170 **Location:**

XMoshe wrote:

Mameluke wrote:

Actually i tought if you add int, ur crits would be higher. Someone correct me if im wrong...

I would stay pure str if i were you, 40k+ hp ftw

Let me correct you. A crit only doubles the phy dmg. So if you have int you will have more magical damage but less physical damage so your crits will be LOWER. Also this explains why euro pure str chars do excactly double their dmg on a crit while chinese usually hit a bit less than 2x the damage on a crit (because of the imbue damage).

Anyway pure str is the way to go. IMO hybrid str sucks.

Well I would have to disagree lol. My hybrid bow is just fine. I can easily support 40% snowshield in pvp, and I currently only have 20 lvls of int.
Plus with Ice guard, pure str's damage on me is very low with SS on, and still not high enough to be a threat with snowshield off. I have a crappy 60+3 bow, and I can easily use 2 skills to kill mobs a lvl higher.
Much faster grinding then Pure str as far as I'm concerned

XMoshe · **Posted:** Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:00 am

Nyima wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

Mameluke wrote:

Actually i tought if you add int, ur crits would be higher. Someone correct me if im wrong...

I would stay pure str if i were you, 40k+ hp ftw

Let me correct you. A crit only doubles the phy dmg. So if you have int you will have more magical damage but less physical damage so your crits will be LOWER. Also this explains why euro pure str chars do excactly double their dmg on a crit while chinese usually hit a bit less than 2x the damage on a crit (because of the imbue damage).

Anyway pure str is the way to go. IMO hybrid str sucks.

Well I would have to disagree lol. My hybrid bow is just fine. I can easily support 40% snowshield in pvp, and I currently only have 20 lvls of int.
Plus with Ice guard, pure str's damage on me is very low with SS on, and still not high enough to be a threat with snowshield off. I have a crappy 60+3 bow, and I can easily use 2 skills to kill mobs a lvl higher.
Much faster grinding then Pure str as far as I'm concerned

Well from my experience every str hybrid I saw is pretty weak. But we'll see how you do at, lets say 85+ where most people have +7 weps

Nyima · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 170 **Location:**

XMoshe wrote:

Nyima wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

I would stay pure str if i were you, 40k+ hp ftw

Let me correct you. A crit only doubles the phy dmg. So if you have int you will have more magical damage but less physical damage so your crits will be LOWER. Also this explains why euro pure str chars do excactly double their dmg on a crit while chinese usually hit a bit less than 2x the damage on a crit (because of the imbue damage).

Anyway pure str is the way to go. IMO hybrid str sucks.

Well I would have to disagree lol. My hybrid bow is just fine. I can easily support 40% snowshield in pvp, and I currently only have 20 lvls of int.
Plus with Ice guard, pure str's damage on me is very low with SS on, and still not high enough to be a threat with snowshield off. I have a crappy 60+3 bow, and I can easily use 2 skills to kill mobs a lvl higher.
Much faster grinding then Pure str as far as I'm concerned

Well from my experience every str hybrid I saw is pretty weak. But we'll see how you do at, lets say 85+ where most people have +7 weps[/quote]
Ok fair trade. They have +7 weps, I'll have +4/5 Full blue protector... And I'm shooting for no less then +5 Full Blue weapons at 9D+ So I cant imagine I'll be as bad off as you hinted at.

DropOut · **Joined:** May 2009 **Posts:** 323 **Location:** Belgium

I can easily support 40% snowshield in pvp, and I currently only have 20 lvls of int.
Plus with Ice guard, pure str's damage on me is very low with SS on, and still not high enough to be a threat with snowshield off. I have a crappy 60+3 bow, and I can easily use 2 skills to kill mobs a lvl higher.
Much faster grinding then Pure str as far as I'm concerned[/quote]

Well on lvl85 you woun't be able to tank anyone with 40% snow if you only have 20 lvls of int ... And btw a pure str can 2 hit mobs too that are a lvl higher.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:09 pm

Quote:

Nyima wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

Let me correct you. A crit only doubles the phy dmg. So if you have int you will have more magical damage but less physical damage so your crits will be LOWER. Also this explains why euro pure str chars do excactly double their dmg on a crit while chinese usually hit a bit less than 2x the damage on a crit (because of the imbue damage).

Anyway pure str is the way to go. IMO hybrid str sucks.

Well I would have to disagree lol. My hybrid bow is just fine. I can easily support 40% snowshield in pvp, and I currently only have 20 lvls of int.
Plus with Ice guard, pure str's damage on me is very low with SS on, and still not high enough to be a threat with snowshield off. I have a crappy 60+3 bow, and I can easily use 2 skills to kill mobs a lvl higher.
Much faster grinding then Pure str as far as I'm concerned

Well from my experience every str hybrid I saw is pretty weak. But we'll see how you do at, lets say 85+ where most people have +7 weps

Ok fair trade. They have +7 weps, I'll have +4/5 Full blue protector... And I'm shooting for no less then +5 Full Blue weapons at 9D+ So I cant imagine I'll be as bad off as you hinted at.[/quote]

What Drop said, those 20 lvl's wont be enough for a 40% snow at that lvl. And the difference between +0-3 (you hardly see people with better stuff at 7d) and +7 is huge. Anyway, I don't want to go into a discussion so I'll just wait till you get around 85 ^^

Nyima · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 170 **Location:**

Lol, I'm not going to only hve 20 of int >.>
I said I currently onyl have 20, with no mention of the future. You dont need to be so aggressive to point out a flaw...

XMoshe · **Posted:** Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:23 pm

Nyima wrote:

Lol, I'm not going to only hve 20 of int >.>
I said I currently onyl have 20, with no mention of the future. You dont need to be so aggressive to point out a flaw...

I'm not aggressive, I'm just pointing out that every str hybrid I ever encoutered sucked. And yes they had good gear, some even sun.

Nyima · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 170 **Location:**

XMoshe wrote:

Nyima wrote:

Lol, I'm not going to only hve 20 of int >.>
I said I currently onyl have 20, with no mention of the future. You dont need to be so aggressive to point out a flaw...

I'm not aggressive, I'm just pointing out that every str hybrid I ever encoutered sucked. And yes they had good gear, some even sun.

Ok, that is fair, I've just had the exact opposite on my server. I'll be sure to make some pvp vids later and we'll see. Maybe I'll suck like you say, or maybe not :wink:

XMoshe · **Posted:** Sat Aug 08, 2009 10:28 pm

Nyima wrote:

XMoshe wrote:

Nyima wrote:

Lol, I'm not going to only hve 20 of int >.>
I said I currently onyl have 20, with no mention of the future. You dont need to be so aggressive to point out a flaw...

I'm not aggressive, I'm just pointing out that every str hybrid I ever encoutered sucked. And yes they had good gear, some even sun.

Ok, that is fair, I've just had the exact opposite on my server. I'll be sure to make some pvp vids later and we'll see. Maybe I'll suck like you say, or maybe not :wink:

Yeah we'll see ^^ Maybe they just sucked at pvp or something. Although AFAIK they did pvp well, the hp loss just killed them.

Nyima · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 170 **Location:**

XMoshe wrote:

Nyima wrote:

Lol, I'm not going to only hve 20 of int >.>
I said I currently onyl have 20, with no mention of the future. You dont need to be so aggressive to point out a flaw...

I'm not aggressive, I'm just pointing out that every str hybrid I ever encoutered sucked. And yes they had good gear, some even sun.

Ok, that is fair, I've just had the exact opposite on my server. I'll be sure to make some pvp vids later and we'll see. Maybe I'll suck like you say, or maybe not :wink:

Yeah we'll see ^^ Maybe they just sucked at pvp or something. Although AFAIK they did pvp well, the hp loss just killed them.[/quote]

Ah i seee. That is one thing that does slightly concern me, is lack of HP. Hopefully wearing Prot and Ice Guard will help me with how much phys dmg i take, and having a larger amount of int will help against mag dmg. Idk lol, just kinda going with it, thinking atlest 30 lvls of int, most likely 35-40.
*Edit, I need to figure out how to get rid of quotes lol.

vengeanze · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 288 **Location:** Uranus.

ty all.

1337 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 165 **Location:**

If you go Hybrid make sure you get cold lv 20 for snow shield.

XMoshe · **Posted:** Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:57 am

Quote:

XMoshe wrote:

Nyima wrote:

Ok, that is fair, I've just had the exact opposite on my server. I'll be sure to make some pvp vids later and we'll see. Maybe I'll suck like you say, or maybe not :wink:

Yeah we'll see ^^ Maybe they just sucked at pvp or something. Although AFAIK they did pvp well, the hp loss just killed them.

Ah i seee. That is one thing that does slightly concern me, is lack of HP. Hopefully wearing Prot and Ice Guard will help me with how much phys dmg i take, and having a larger amount of int will help against mag dmg. Idk lol, just kinda going with it, thinking atlest 30 lvls of int, most likely 35-40.
*Edit, I need to figure out how to get rid of quotes lol.

Since you can only quote 3 quotes in a reply, just remove the most inner quotes in the quote piramid, with text ofcourse.

So when quoting this reply you'd have to remove:

Code:

[quote="Nyima"]
Ok, that is fair, I've just had the exact opposite on my server. I'll be sure to make some pvp vids later and we'll see. Maybe I'll suck like you say, or maybe not  :wink:[/quote]

In order to make a new reply ^^

TXERA- · **Joined:** Feb 2009 **Posts:** 45 **Location:**

pure str.

JoyFax · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 1095 **Location:** PORTUGAL

hibrid str

JuelzSantana · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 720 **Location:**

in vsro most bowers i see actually do nukes, so im guessing they are hybrid int, but thats viet, not isro so dont take my word for it

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